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POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?

Fighter
0 (0%)
Barbarian
2 (20%)
Paladin
0 (0%)
Ranger
1 (10%)
Warlord
0 (0%)
Cavalier
1 (10%)
Thief
0 (0%)
Thief-Acrobat
0 (0%)
Druid
0 (0%)
Cleric
0 (0%)
Assassin
2 (20%)
Monk
0 (0%)
Bard
2 (20%)
Warlord
0 (0%)
Warlock
0 (0%)
Sorcerer
1 (10%)
Magic-User
0 (0%)
Illusionist
1 (10%)
Avenger
0 (0%)
Invoker
0 (0%)
Shaman
0 (0%)
Warden
0 (0%)
Beguiler
0 (0%)
Dragon Shaman
0 (0%)
Duskblade
0 (0%)
Knight
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: April 30, 2009, 03:32:04 PM

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Offline ProphetSword

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POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« on: April 10, 2009, 03:32:04 PM »
You can only pick one...

But, which class out of the history of Dungeons & Dragons do you really hate.  You wouldn't play it even if someone forced you to do so at gunpoint.  You would never bother with it, ever.

These classes come from various different editions of D&D.  If you aren't familiar with a specific class, then you probably shouldn't pick it.  These only represent the "base" classes that appeared in versions of D&D (not counting BASIC D&D).  No Prestige Classes are included.

For me, my least favorite class is the Illusionist.  Never got why it would be better to play one over a standard mage.
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Re: POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2009, 06:57:03 PM »
definitely rangers
maybe its just the people that play rangers...
oh well too late now

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Re: POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2009, 08:16:52 PM »
The cavalier from 1st Edition Unearthed Arcana.

I thought the class was waaaaay too powerful, and the class requirements made it hard to property roleplay in a typical D&D campaign.  I also didn't like that they received percentile ability scores besides strength, and I thought it was stupid how they retconned paladins into a subclass of cavalier instead of fighter.

If I could pick another one, I'd say the 1st edition barbarian.

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Re: POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2009, 03:44:04 AM »
With such a long list of classes, I can't just pick one.

I would like to pick all classes EXCEPT for:

Fighter, Paladin, Ranger, Cleric, Druid, Monk, Thief, Assasin, Magic-User, Illusionist, and Bard.
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Re: POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2009, 09:44:24 AM »
Nol, you can pick up your 1st Edition Players Handbook at the front desk.

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Re: POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2009, 12:37:17 PM »
For me, my least favorite class is the Illusionist.  Never got why it would be better to play one over a standard mage.

Heh I used to wonder too... but I have come to see that the Illusionist is actually, the way I see it, more of a conceptual way to run a traditional magic-user: paired with certain other classes, individually (ie: multiclassed gnome thief) or by companion (eg: support for melee folk and traditional casters), they can be the specialist-in-the-spotlight... where traditional magic-users fling fireballs and magic missiles to put the beat-down on 'em, the illusionist seeks to sway or mystify or mislead: meat and drink for the avid roleplayer.  The biggest bonus, in my opinion, is that the illusionist is readily accessible to the novice player in that most real-life prestidigitators can be classified as 'illusionists' rather than true magicians.

Of course, one could argue that magic-users technically have access to much of the bounty of the class, glamers and illusions and such.  My illusionists have always worn blue, however... how else to pull off the Parlor Trick to end all parlor tricks than through flared cerulean sleeves?


On the flip side, I've -never- cottoned to the idea of Sorcererness.  If it was a racially-limited prestige (draconian or dragonkin), I could understand... but all of the bonii of magic-users without the Big Book of Every-Eight-Hours and all those scribing material costs?  Heh... I always saw sorcerers as a draw for the perennial underaged player: magic missile x4, flaming sphere x4, fireball x3... GO!

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Re: POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2009, 02:31:04 PM »
Nol, you can pick up your 1st Edition Players Handbook at the front desk.

Heh. I wouldn't even mind if the class choices were just: Fighter, Cleric, Mage, Thief.

The number of different classes has been growing like an out-of-control virus since then. At some point, I hope D&D completely does away with the notion of Classes and goes to a Skill based system instead, because the current system is ridiculous.

Here's a partial list of Prestige Classes which you could add to the poll. I still refuse to vote for just one, as I don't like 99.9% of them.

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Prestige Bard
Prestige Ranger
Prestige Paladin
Spell Scion
Swift Scion
Tainted Sorcerer
Tainted Warrior

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Arch-Psion
Ballisteer
Blackguard 3.5
Bladesinger
Body Leech
Celestial Paragon
Cerebral Assassin
Chameleon
Cold Iron Warrior
Constructor (Epic) (3.5)
Conventioneer
Courtier
Covert Seradessian
Cragtop Archer
Crystal Master (Epic) (3.5)
Crystalsinger (Epic)
Dark Hunter
Darkhagard
Deepwarden
Diamond Warrior (Epic)
Divine Emissary
Doomguard
Dragon Defender
Dragon Samurai
Dragonstalker
Dread Champion
Drunken Master
Dweomerkeeper
Entropomancer
Epic Acolyte of the Skin
Epic Animal Lord
Epic Arboreal Guardian
Epic Arcane Trickster
Epic Berserk
Epic Bladesinger
Epic Bloodhound
Epic Cavalier
Epic Constructor
Epic Crystal Master
Epic Crystalsinger
Epic Deathwarden Chanter
Epic Deepwood Sniper
Epic Devoted Defender
Epic Diabolist
Epic Divine Agent
Epic Dragon Disciple I
Epic Dragon Disciple II
Epic Dreadmaster
Epic Duelist
Epic Dungeon Delver
Epic Dweomerkeeper
Epic Elemental Savant I
Epic Elemental Savant II
Epic Frenzied Berserker
Epic Gatecrasher
Epic Guild Wizard of Waterdeep
Epic Hathran
Epic Holy Liberator
Epic Hospitaler
Epic Iaijutsu Master
Epic Incantatrix
Epic Illithid Savant
Epic Mage-Killer
Epic Master Samurai
Epic Metamind
Epic Ninja of the Crescent Moon
Epic Planar Champion
Epic Pyrokineticist
Epic Red Wizard
Epic Runecaster
Epic Samurai
Epic Shadow Adept
Epic Slayer
Epic Soulknife
Epic Spellsword
Epic Spymaster
Epic Stormlord
Epic Sword Dancer
Epic Tempest
Epic Templar
Epic Temple Raider of Olidammara
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Frostrager
Giant-Killer
Green Star Adept
Grim Psion
Guardian of the Road
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Hammer of Moradin
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Hidecarved Dragon
Incantatrix
Jordain
Kineticist
Lady/Lord of the Dead
Life Eater
Mage Hunter
Master Arcane Artisan
Master Harper
Master of Radiance
Master of Shrouds 3.0
Master of Shrouds
Meditant (Epic), (3.5)
Mindknight (Epic)
Moon Guardian
Mystic Theurge
Nightcloak
Orc Warlord
Paladin
People’s Champion
Pious Templar
Psionic Dragon Comrade
Psychic Assassin
Psychic Theurge
Psychic Weapon Master (Epic), (3.5)
Pyrokineticist variant
Raumathari Battlemage
Ruby Disciple
Runecaster
Sangehirn (Epic) (3.5)
Serpent Slayer
Shadow Mind (Epic)
Silent One
Silverwood Arcanist
Silverwood Outrider
Spellfire Hierophant
Thief-Acrobat
Truth Seeker
Vetha
Virtuoso
Void Incarnate
War Hulk
Warlord of Utterdark
Warpriest (test)
Worldwalker
Zhentarim Skymage

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Beholder Mage (Monsters of Faerun)
Berserk (Deities and Demigods) (Epic)
Doomdreamer (Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil)
Fiend of Blasphemy (Fiend Folio)
Fiend of Corruption (Fiend Folio)
Fiend of Possession (Fiend Folio)
Justiciar of Taiia (Deities and Demigods)
Soldier of Light (Deities and Demigods)

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Re: POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2009, 02:50:51 PM »
Ben's poll excludes Prestige Classes.

4e no longer has prestige classes, but they are really making too many "base" classes with their power lists. It is getting a little out of hand. Likely good business for them, though. It has become clear to me D&D is no longer a game for the players, but more of a "how can WotC make it so players have to spend inordinate amounts of money each month just to hope to stay current on rules".  bleargh

That said, I still like the tactical feel of 4e.

The game i run with my kids has a fighter, paladin, ranger, wizard, and rogue. Lack of a cleric is not so bad but felt this last session. The paladin has been filling in on the healing role. Tactics this last session were very involved with terrain playing a huge part of it.

I'd like to see a skill based system, too. We should make one muahahaha

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Re: POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2009, 05:23:52 PM »
Heh. I wouldn't even mind if the class choices were just: Fighter, Cleric, Mage, Thief.

That's the attraction of original and Basic D&D--choose one of the four archtypes and then roleplay how you want your character to be.  A fighter can be a grizzled veteran, a flamboyant swashbuckler, or a silent enforcer; it's all in the player, not the stat sheet.  If you have a chance, check out the forums at dragonsfoot.org for more on this topic.

Here's a partial list of Prestige Classes which you could add to the poll. I still refuse to vote for just one, as I don't like 99.9% of them.

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Good heavens, man!  How could you type all that?  I got tired just skimming through (not even reading) that list!

I will stick with the characters from 1st edition AD&D, thank you very much.

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Re: POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2009, 06:40:07 PM »
There's a good reason I didn't include prestige classes on this list.

Also, some of this classes are no longer around (Monk, Cavalier, etc).  The total pool of available classes in 4th Edition now is about 20.
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Re: POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2009, 07:50:13 PM »
Monk is coming, though.

And one of the non-WotC groups has already released a product where you can make a monk in the 4E style. I forget the name of it ... Fist, Fang, and Song, I think. Either Gooodman or Mongoose made it.

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Re: POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2009, 10:17:35 PM »
Right, but of the current base classes in the Player's Handbook and Player's Handbook II, none of them are Monk.  So, officially, it doesn't exist as a core class in the current version of D&D.  I was just pointing out that not all those classes are available for selection at the moment, not that they would never be available in the future.
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Re: POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2009, 12:13:12 PM »
There's a good reason I didn't include prestige classes on this list.

Also, some of this classes are no longer around (Monk, Cavalier, etc).  The total pool of available classes in 4th Edition now is about 20.

Have they created the Emulsifying Tangential Warpriest Gloomblade of the Glamorous Penguin yet?  ::)

Because that really is one of the core classes that no fantasy campaign can live without.  :P

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Re: POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2009, 12:42:53 PM »
Have they created the Emulsifying Tangential Warpriest Gloomblade of the Glamorous Penguin yet?  ::)

Because that really is one of the core classes that no fantasy campaign can live without.  :P

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Isn't that the one that requires Doublespeak and a Crysis: midlife alignment shift?

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Re: POLL: Least Favorite D&D Class?
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2009, 10:57:29 PM »
The new classes are pretty well balanced.  And considering you are no longer allowed to multiclass, I would say that they've eliminated much of the overpowering nonsense that went on with the last edition.
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