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Re: OA Inspirations, etc., etc.
« Reply #76 on: April 10, 2013, 02:21:09 AM »
I have to say that Wuxia films are very new to me. They look nice with all those weapons and outfits but I think they jump a bit higher then I would expect. I watched some films about some Chinese medieval I think royal or noble family and well there wasn't much fighting but was very nice to watch and I wish I could find something like that :) lol I watched friends yesterday too on You tube I wish I could find a chinese like version :).

Here is just one intro of the film I think was inspiration for Mortal Combat game which lately is really more violent then it it should be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXZqycKQ1sI
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« Reply #77 on: April 12, 2013, 08:04:02 PM »
High jumps are nothing in the wuxia genre.  In some stories, the most skilled characters can virtually fly.  Here are some notes I included in my first UA mod (from before OAUA existed), Fire and Water:
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"Light skill" (or, in Chinese, "ching kwon" or "qinggong") plays an
important role in my mod.  It refers to a *kung fu* specialization
which allows the practioner to accomplish extraordinary feats of
balance and gymnastics.  In reality, it's like the daring acrobatics
of Jackie Chan.  In Chinese fiction and legends, however, this ability
is exaggerated further into trampoline-like leaps, balancing lightly
on sharpened spear points, --or even further, actual levitation, and
the ultimate:  flying around like Superman! 

"Ching kwon", in my experience, is most often given the literal
translation "light skill", which is what I decided to call it in my
mod (though I realize that may be a bit confusing to most folks). 
I've seen other, rather seriously flawed, translations such as
"jumping" and "flying".  Here are some other translations offered
by Simon Lai (aka: The Magician) which future Oriental mod authors
may find more pleasing: 
   
 * airy foot/feet
 * airy step
 * "levitating skill"
 * air levitation
 
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Here's a selective filmography of some of the best (IMO) wuxia films:

Come Drink with Me (1966)
Have Sword Will Travel (1969)
The Water Margin/Seven Blows of the Dragon (1972)
The Magic Blade (1976)
Five Venoms/Five Deadly Venoms (1978)
Kid with the Golden Arm (1979)
Last Hurrah for Chivalry (1979)
Bat Without Wings (1980)
Swordsman II/The Legend of the Swordsman (1992)
Dragon Inn (1992)
The Bride with White Hair (1993)
Ashes of Time (1994)/Ashes of Time Redux (2008)
The Storm Riders (1998) & sequel The Storm Warriors (2009)
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000)
Hero (2002)
House of Flying Daggers (2004)
Flying Swords of Dragon Gate (2011)
 

Recently, there has been a trend in Chinese films toward historical costume dramas centered around war and politics.  Heavy armor and an abundance of shields are well evidenced in this type of movie.  Although the heroes may display some wuxia skills and maybe touch upon a few wuxia themes, I wouldn't class them as true wuxia films.  Some folks have started to call them wuxia armor movies.  They tend to focus on emperors and generals, whereas true wuxia heroes are typically aloof to, or estranged from, political authorities. 

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« Reply #78 on: April 18, 2013, 11:09:24 PM »
Just released on DVD in the U.S. is a terrific film, starring Donnie Yen, Dragon (Wu Xia):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btCJKjAvBn0 

A worthy addition to the above list.   ;)

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« Reply #79 on: April 19, 2013, 08:33:11 AM »
Well just a song that is well OA like :) Beat of Angels - Atlantis Princess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLzaMU9Nd3I

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« Reply #80 on: April 22, 2013, 07:51:27 PM »
Offbeat, oddball, politically-incorrect...  a band and a song that are almost indescribeable...  Cruella De Ville doing "The Hong Kong Swing":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCo1lRyX5xs&feature=related

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« Reply #81 on: April 23, 2013, 04:02:23 PM »
Well here is one Chinese band I like, I don't have their favorite song but this one looks good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MphuZ4EFZjU

Btw, today I felt like I really don't know much :) I wish I could learn more and fast :)

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« Reply #82 on: April 23, 2013, 10:45:38 PM »
Qinggong can be spelled Ch'ing-kung, but not Ching Kwon.  It is exaggerated in the wuxia movies, but really was (is) practiced by martial artists (and thieves) back in the day.  Not all qinggong skills (there are various types) involve leaping, although many do; some involve running up and down walls (paoqiang), others involve extremely fast lateral movement (as if one is "floating" although of course one does not).  Some old qinggong training involved walking around the edge of a basket, starting with it full, and then gradually removing the contents of it.  :)
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Re: OA Inspirations, etc., etc.
« Reply #83 on: April 25, 2013, 12:23:17 AM »
Qinggong can be spelled Ch'ing-kung, but not Ching Kwon.
 

My source for "Ching Kwon" was my good chum, Simon Lai.  I still have his note to me, which read: "light skill" - that's a word for word direct translation of what I call "ching kwon" (or however you might spell it in english).   Heh, heh, I should have paid more attention to that last bit and done more research on the proper Romanized spelling.    :P 

My earlier quote was from the docs to my first mod/demo, "Fire and Water," ULed around 1998.  In a later OA mod, "An Oriental Alphabet Primer" (OAOA.zip), I gave a definition of "qinggong" within the mod, itself, that does not include the dubious "ching kwon."  :-[
 

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« Reply #84 on: April 27, 2013, 03:00:37 PM »
There is a MMO called "Age of Wushu". I haven't tried it, but it  looks like there is a free to play option.

http://www.ageofwushu.com/home/
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« Reply #85 on: April 29, 2013, 10:53:06 PM »
Heh, heh - well, to be fair, there are lots of Romanization methods, all of which are different :D  Japanese romanization can be weird sometimes, too - such as zyuzitu for jujitsu...  obviously, some Romanization methods did not really think about how foreigners would pronounce these words...

The "gong" in "qinggong" is the same "gong" as in "gongfu."
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« Reply #86 on: May 05, 2013, 08:23:41 PM »
The extraordinary title sequence from Deaf Mute Heroine, a lady wuxia movie from the 70's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zc3LM-sxro
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« Reply #87 on: May 27, 2013, 08:38:29 PM »
Two music videos from recent DVD releases featuring Chinese hengeyokai (animal spirits who've taken human form):

The Sorcerer and the White Snake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2vbV9p84eo

Painted Skin II: The Resurrection
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukv3SwbaAXw 

The latter is the better (and more adult) movie, but both are worth a watch.

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« Reply #88 on: May 28, 2013, 12:52:46 AM »
Wow those vids are wonderful, and chinese and japanese people can look very pretty indeed. It is interesting though that there are no blonde people there :) and well though i like black haired people still i was just amazed when i realized it before few years. My family is mostly blonde and blue eyed and pale skined and a bit bald too :) but well interesting i guess those black skinned people (like africans) don't have blonde people also :) Hm i just wanted to point that out, not that i wanted to achieve anything but saying it :) just a thought from my viewpoint.
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Re: OA Inspirations, etc., etc.
« Reply #89 on: May 28, 2013, 11:13:42 AM »
Wow those vids are wonderful, and chinese and japanese people can look very pretty indeed. It is interesting though that there are no blonde people there :) and well though i like black haired people still i was just amazed when i realized it before few years. My family is mostly blonde and blue eyed and pale skined and a bit bald too :) but well interesting i guess those black skinned people (like africans) don't have blonde people also :) Hm i just wanted to point that out, not that i wanted to achieve anything but saying it :) just a thought from my viewpoint.

I doubt your intention was to sound racist, but to me, this is really pushing that line.
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